"This is why Atheism is seemingly attacked."

 

that was the actual quote i was referring too.

 

"what's glenn beck got to do with you guys starting trouble and blaming me for starting?"

 

nothing, it just had to do with the fact that atheism carries quote some abuse in america.

 

"This kid can't even be out of high school folks."

 

if you misunderstand posts, it's not my fault.

 

"Cause you guys been here longer than me and were bashing evrything you saw."

anhd have you nnoticed the amount of stupidity we where bashing?

ffs man, someone actually thought you could draw a climate trendline using only the data since 1970!

 

"You are strong in philosophy you said? lmao"

 

fortunately this has nothing to do with philosophy. more like intellectual honesty...

 

"I adhominem back."

way to lower yourself.

 

"Because how else would I know you are an Atheist?"

 

how about asking?

 

" You were already here at war with ad hominem attacks when I came."

 

calling ronnie a lier for his unfounded claim of pedophilia, and bigdog a coward for his hit and run, and kent inane for his TL;DR posts isn't exaclty throwing around ad hominems.

 

"You know your liing cause you get off on being a mean to Christians don't you?"

 

 

hahaha....

like i said, it's not like there are any other fundys here.

 

"you know you start with us all the time."

 

no i do not.

just check the posts history.

i don't start flinging insults unless provoced with utter stupidity..

yes i might be cynical, but that won't stop me from lookign at arguments..and neither does flinging insults for that matter.

 

:Or just keep liing and i'll keep pointing out the different posts you were out of line in"

 

you know what?

how about you do that.

how about you actually quote for once.

 

"And man, I can't find a post yet without you guys one or the other bashing like Big bully's."

 

"And man, I can't find a post yet without you guys one or the other bashing like Big bully's."

 

pretty sure you'll only find cynincal mocking...and no threats.

 

"You said I was acting like a bad ass cause I was safe behind my pc, or some crap like that."

 

it's either that, or you have an extreme anger issue and should consult a psychiater.

 

"But that is you ain't it?"

 

do you see me threathing with physical harm? no.

so stfu.

 

"You're all sweet and polite when not on a pc right?"

 

t put it in the words of cartman; "mostyl..."

 

" lol Yea."

 

how about you skype and find out?

 

"I can kick ass, i do fight when I have to. I win quickly and decively, most the time."

 

has you ego filled the room yet?

 

"hehe But I am not afraid to back up what I say."

 

then how about you start doing that?

 

"My brother in law threatened my sister and when I approached him he said "what,you gonna hit me?" and I said, "no Carl, I'm going to hit you back. He never threatened my sister again."

 

which all falls away in light of you anecdote of you breakign an atheists jaw, when you never indicated he hit you first...

 

"And we are bros now. He went manic on her."

 

...i can assume manic would be quite frighting for her...is he taking his bipolar medication now?

 

"If you guys weren't being mean bullys, I wouldn't have even posted prolly."

 

...really..i would have thought the falling for a troll posts already demonstrated you would.

"You have not shown he is a bullshitter."

 

rush not exaclt here.

but hovind has been shown to be filled with shit.

for started his water canopy, or his cooling by ice comet.

 

"You were indoctrinated."

 

somewhere the "read the book and give me your opinion" line form schools comes floating up in my mind....

 

"You are now one of their parrots, not an independant thinker that you think you are."

 

why? because the insanity you post only has one kind of response to it?

 

"Every bit of evidence I can bring will be called a lie, like you do to Ken."

 

no, but how about you bring some evidence first.

and aon ken, it has been shown, DIRECTLY to him how factually wrong he is.

ffs man TF is in your friends list, go watch "why do people laugh at creationists"

 

"Now, for me to tell you he isn't the liar, you would have to bring me something relying on the honesty The people who programmed you to hate."

 

see above video's for plenty of evidence that hovind is full of shit. i'm not gonna go through this muck again.

and trust me, this isn't the only person who did an expose on hovind.

 

"and remember, you lied too. So how you any better than Ken?"

 

and i deliberately and continuasely spoutign falsehoods to promote an religios aenda like hovind is?

no.

also please quote where i lied to you.

 

"You search these sites out and bring your bullying friends"

 

oh i DID search this sicht out to troll, but it was i who ended up being trolled..

 

"Your posts speak to your character."

 

only about 10% of it actually.

 

". I know Ken gives his opinion."

 

...sigh...you have noticed, if you watched his video's, he portrays that opinions as FACT right? or at least as scientifically founded. when it's demonstrably NOT.

 

"support insane notions to protect people by putting people in camps by your silence and piling on."

 

i already said i would find that deplorable...have you gotten stuck on the repeat button?

 

 

"You have not shown he is a bullshitter."
- Watch it then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nnVQ2fROOg
Refute that please.

"You believe who want to believe. You are being lied to and deceived in a plan to do exactly what happened to you. You were indoctrinated. You are now one of their parrots, not an independant thinker that you think you are."
- Ofc why else wouldn't I agree with you? I mean it's impossible for me to think sceptically and question your claims! There's more reasons to why you actually test and experiment with what you've learned to actually understand it...

"Every bit of evidence I can bring will be called a lie, like you do to Ken."
- Try me. If you don't try you cant win.

"Now, for me to tell you he isn't the liar, you would have to bring me something relying on the honesty The people who programmed you to hate."
- Who programmed me to hate? I dont hate him, im just saying he's a a fraud since he's been convicted of tax evasion and a liar since he's not honest about so many things i don't even know where to begin. Someone would like to add to this?

"And remember, you lied too. So how you any better than Ken?"
- I don't make money on my lies...

"But there lies the problem again. I know Ken gives his opinion. You don't know what you learned is opinion. That makes you dangerous, when you support insane notions to protect people by putting people in camps by your silence and piling on."
- So when are you gonna stop talking unbased crap about me and start talking about creationism?

 

Are you kidding? Hovind's claims barely even require scientific knowledge to debunk, his arguments are so full of holes and fallacies that they set off the "bullshit" alarms in minds of anyone with even basic understanding of intellectual rigor.

 

Hell, even other slightly less-insane creationists have criticized him for using long-debunked arguments:

 

 

 

Ah, and that presumption is your excuse for *not* having provided any evidence so far?

 

 

Post proof or STFU.

 

 

You managed that all by yourself, Mikey. Except for the occasional post-and-run by ronnie and bigdog, this forum was largely dead - you managed to draw us all back with your prolific insanity. Well done!

 

 

Post proof or STFU. Of course, you probably aren't capable of doing either.

 

 

I had forgotten to add that claim to the list of your fallacious arguments. That's been fixed, thanks for reminding me!

 

 

 

That lie has already been addressed, Mikey - multiple times.