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Nothing + Time = evolution.
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Submitted By bigdog on 09/04/28
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Here's a cool video by Eric Hovind. There's already been 100,000 views on this in it's first week. It's called the formula for evolution.
http://www.creationminute.com/

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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
5 days - 8,032v
Posted 2009/04/28 - 23:03 GMT
god the title just outlines how asinine this topic is gonna end up to be.
 
same fucking strawmen of evolution being everythign from  bigbang to speciation.

QUIT FUCKING WITH SCIENCE YOU SCIENTIFIC ILLITERATES!
 
 
of course im not gonna mention that the bigbang theory actually says there was something...something called ENERGY....oh dam...i gone and dun mentioned it... DOH! XD
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
3 days - 4,501v
Posted 2009/04/28 - 23:31 GMT
I'll be sure to watch that the next time I need a good laugh.
 
Unfortunately for Eric, it appears that the charisma gene skips a generation in the Hovind family (even if the "fundamentalist-whackjob" gene doesn't).
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
4 days - 5,621v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 1:33 GMT

325 says there was energy. So nothing + time = energy = evolution. Eureka! He has a lot of faith in this theory.
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
3 days - 4,501v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 2:23 GMT
So nothing + time = energy = evolution.
 
If you were to describe the operations of (say) a fast food restaurant in the same absurdly over-simplified terms, it would sound something like:
 
"People drive up to a wall and talk to it, then food comes out of the wall and they drive away."
 
Of course, knowing your penchant for dishonest (and bizarre) exageration, I'm sure that it will only take a day or two for you to start posting stuff like "evolutionists believes in magic, food-dispensing walls powered by monkey-hobbits LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!"
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
4 days - 5,621v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 2:28 GMT

That's the dryest joke I ever heard. Stick to pretending your a scientist. It's funnier.
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
3 days - 4,501v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 15:44 GMT
That's the dryest joke I ever heard.
 
Hmm, did I not include enough "LOLOLOLOLOLOL!" for you?
 
Stick to pretending your a scientist.
 
You seem to have me confused with Kent Hovind.
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
1 day - 1,877v
Posted 2009/04/30 - 13:59 GMT
"Stick to pretending your a scientist"
 
Why should he do that?....I AM a scientist and you don't listen to me.
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
5 days - 8,032v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 8:33 GMT
"says there was energy. So nothing + time = energy = evolution"
 
sooo energy is nothing?
 
well then matter is nothing...since it's made up of energy.
 
and 0x100000000xC^2=0
(E=mC^2)
 
or to put it into simpler terms. you just called everything in existence ...nothing.
 
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
4 days - 5,621v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 18:46 GMT

Where did the energy come from?
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
5 days - 8,032v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 19:16 GMT
ehm... it was always ther.
 
THAT is one of them "gaps" you can fit god into, and personally i think it might be the only place a god could have interviewed.
 
 
but untill we know where the energy came i'll just take pride in saying.
"nescio"
 
(ps: just because we don;t know doesn't mena god dunnit)
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
5 days - 8,032v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 19:17 GMT
but this is an attempt by you to switch away the attention of your incredibly stupid statement regarding big bang theory.
 
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
4 days - 5,621v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 19:38 GMT

Again you demonstrate great faith. I believe there always was GOD in the beginning and you BELIEVE that there was always energy. Energy that created a perfeclty sound solar system for earth all by accident and chance.
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
5 days - 8,032v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 21:19 GMT
" Energy that created a perfeclty sound solar system for earth all by accident and chance."
 
EEEHMMM....
gravity, electromagnatism, weak and strong nuclear force??
 
please don't strawman natural event that are the consequens of natural forces as being "accident and chance".
 
regardless. you are stil the one posing  agreater faith. namelty the one of an antropomorphic magical skydaddy that made all the energy out of nothing (whos beleives nothing->something here??!) and then magically placed everythign in the univers as we observe it today....just for us to see...
and then he threatend us with eternal pain if we don;t grovel down to his feet and praise him.....
 
whereas i just believe that there always was energy. and that energy has certain characteristics.....
 
really...who's "belief" is more stupid here....
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
5 days - 8,032v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 21:22 GMT
"a perfeclty sound solar system for earth"
 
ehm.. it's not even perfect... it chances an awfull low dude.... just of the top of my head:
orbits are eliptical and change in angle.
 
 
but you cannot possible fathom the possibility that we are perfect to our environment because we had to survive here and not that our environment is perfect because it was made so for us.....
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
3 days - 4,501v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 21:28 GMT
Again you demonstrate great faith. I believe there always was GOD in the beginning and you BELIEVE that there was always energy.
 
I love the way that your best rhetorical tactic is nothing more than repeated attempts to spin your opponents claims in an effort to make them sound as silly as yours.
 
When your best argument is "Oh yeah? Well you're just as bad as I am," you might as well just admit defeat.
 
Energy that created a perfeclty sound solar system for earth all by accident and chance.
 
You realize that no one is suggesting that the solar system popped out of the big bang, fully formed, right?
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
4 days - 5,621v
Posted 2009/04/29 - 23:51 GMT

But, you are suggesting that it got this way all by a bunch of random accidents. That is scientifically impossible. You guys luagh because I believe in the supernatral. But I luagh because you believe this infinite mumber of highly complex life forms all happened by some non-intelligent force. Unguided, unintelligent energy doesn't create, it destroys.
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
5 days - 8,032v
Posted 2009/04/30 - 0:36 GMT
"But, you are suggesting that it got this way all by a bunch of random accidents."
 
why does this sound so much like
"but..but....but....ehhh..YOU BELIEVE YOUR GRANDAD WAS A MONEKY!"
 
or in other words. you can't adress my arguements and you strawman me. you get and F for understanding physics, cosmology and biology. so much is clear from your posts.
 
"you are the weakest link. goodbye."
 
 
"That is scientifically impossible."
 
by defenition something random is possible...its just VERY unlikely. but so is ANYTHING happening.
 
"You guys luagh because I believe in the supernatral."
 
you are correct, for once, i laugh at you because you believe in the supernatural.
 
" But I luagh because you believe this infinite mumber of highly complex life forms all happened by some non-intelligent force."
 
strawman to start of with. but on the other hand... crystals-> your argument fails.
 
"Unguided, unintelligent energy doesn't create, it destroys."
 
only in hovind world, you know, where that IS the 2nd law of thernodynamics....
 
in the real world the 2nd law of thermodynamics simply is this.
 
"the second law is an expression of the fact that over time, ignoring the effects of self-gravity, differences in temperature, pressure, and density tend to even out in a physical system that is isolated from the outside world."
 
 
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
4 days - 5,621v
Posted 2009/04/30 - 4:34 GMT

Strawman, strawman! Why does this sound like every other whining comment you post? Just look at the bombing of Hiroshima. There was a heck of a lot of energy there with even some mutations, but nothing benificial. Just "image google" 'hiroshima, mutations.' I just did. It actually freaked me out.
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
5 days - 8,032v
Posted 2009/04/30 - 9:32 GMT
"Strawman, strawman! Why does this sound like every other whining comment you post?"
 
ehm because THEY ARE strawman arguments bigdog.
i've already explained WHY they are.
 
"Just look at the bombing of Hiroshima. There was a heck of a lot of energy there with even some mutations, but nothing benificial."
 
aaah one of hovind examples.
but what the hells does beneficial have to do with the 2nd law of thermodynamics...
all the energy released form the blast ultimately spread spread out homogenously over the area after some time from hot to cold....so the 2nd law was observed....
 
how is this so hard to understand?
 
"Just "image google" 'hiroshima, mutations.' I just did. It actually freaked me out."
 
y...radiation does also interfere with the dna copying proces. so what?
this has nothign to do with the 2nd law of termo dynamics...
 
how ever i'll use one of your arguemtents against you.
- adding energy to dough makes bread.
- adding energy to the muscles makes em contract. ( in the form of makign the synapses release Ca+2 ions on the muscle holding protiens)
nuf said.
 
- adding energy to a cold blooded organism speeds up it's metabolism.
- adding energy to certain alkanes makes them take on higher energy conformations.
 
-adding energy to ADP and P makes ATP.
must i go on?
 
 
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
3 days - 4,501v
Posted 2009/05/01 - 19:33 GMT
Strawman, strawman! Why does this sound like every other whining comment you post?
 
The majority of your posts are nothing but the repetition of the same old, tired strawman arguments. Ya think that might have something to do with it?
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
3 days - 4,501v
Posted 2009/05/01 - 15:40 GMT
But, you are suggesting that it got this way all by a bunch of random accidents.
 
Describing the process as "a bunch of random accidents" is an absurd over-simplification that thoroughly betrays your ignorance.
 
You guys luagh because I believe in the supernatral.
 
Not so. We laugh at you because you blindly cling to fundamentalist religious dogma & claim that it's factually-accurate in the face of ample evidence to the contrary.
 
But I luagh because you believe this infinite mumber of highly complex life forms all happened by some non-intelligent force.
 
Yes, I think we all realize that you're quite easily-amused.
 
Unguided, unintelligent energy doesn't create, it destroys.
 
No one is claiming that the evolution of life - or the development of the universe - was "unguided," you're just attacking a strawman.
 
And even with that part of claim removed, it's still false. For example, astronomers have directly observed both molecular clouds (also known as "stellar nurseries") and protoplanetary disks. What do you think causes those?
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
1 day - 1,877v
Posted 2009/04/30 - 14:02 GMT
Yes, but you see Big...there is verifiyable evidence of the existance of ENERGY and no good reason to believe that it wasn't around in some form at any given "time" before.
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
12 hours - 1,085v
Posted 2009/04/30 - 19:54 GMT
There are several types of strawman arguments, one of which is known as oversimplification. That’s where an oversimplified version of the opponent’s argument is presented, and then attacked. “Nothing + time= evolution” is a ridiculously simplified version of real science. Of course it sounds silly. It would also sound dumb if I told you that “water + air + light= trees” if you knew nothing about the complex processes of carbon fixation and photosynthesis. And what’s all this talk about random mutations causing evolution? Did you not read that topic I made a long time ago, where I explained that mutation is a relatively minor component?
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
3 days - 4,501v
Posted 2009/05/01 - 15:43 GMT
Also known as "reductio ad absurdum."
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
2 days - 2,415v
Posted 2009/05/04 - 18:48 GMT
once upon a time, there was nothing and then something almighty that consist of nothing made the earth out of nothing and that almighty nothing was lazy so he only made 2 humans and they hade to have kids that would have to use incest to make sure humans stayed alive because the almighty nothing was to lazy to do anything after he created the earth out of nothing. They would all be inbreed and stupid and retarded, and... yeah u get the picture.

hey this oversimplification is awesome! :D


EDIT: sorry i got carried away, i just found so many holes in the original fairytale it was 2 good to be true.
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Re: Nothing + Time = evolution.
9 hours - 765v
Posted 2009/05/04 - 20:10 GMT
I wonder how the Hovinds are getting away with using my tax money to pay for that expensive CGI for thier videos.


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